Chapter leaders, members, and advisors will be part of the Active Minds Chapter Network upon activation and will . They werent pussies. They made us have a big meeting in Junior High School 73. at the Astoria Houses at 27th Ave. Patrol cars screamed into both It didnt begin as a crime thing. First, we need to find some places that we could link to this page, so it gets some visibility. They looked at both of us, and I was a little relieved because I said to myself, well, they really was there, so Im gonna walk. You lived in one building, and the buildings to your left and right were abandoned, because they were gutted out by fires. You have every type of person in every club. The biggest place we would go was the Starship. Before that, date rape was the usual. Underneath the hill, there were the train tracks. Ernests son is now 58 years old and just now found out about his familys history in New York City. The gangs started separating. Today, thats what the gangs call itthe Bloods, the Crips, all of them, they call it flagging: I die for my flag. When I was in Spanish Harlem, the guys in gangs wore silk jackets with their name on the front and the club name on the back. 71.184.65.20 (talk) 19:53, 28 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], That can't possibly be a real gang. I added a stub to stave off the CSD folks - the article does need fleshing out, but as a stub you should be given some time to do so. They didnt look like they bathed. I was always aware. The RailRoad Boys, East New York/Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn. 1954 Red Wings & Fordham Baldies The Red Wings were a well-known and powerful Italian gang situated in East Harlem. We burned fires in the tunnels in the winter to stay warm, and we went swimming in the Bronx river when it was hot. I mean, I know I never did it. Some people were robbing other gangs for their drugs. If you drank that, it was like forget about it. Search . It was just a lucky shot and it went right through this guys arm. That happened a lot. It started as a dance club, and as things happened in the clubarguments and fightsit became a gang. The guys and I would go and take it and strip the parts off and hed get his insurance. had zip-guns. It was like one big family. And a lot of these girls from these clubs, let me tell you, a lot of them could have been better fighters than Alis daughter. And the drugs? I got arrested October 1980, came home December 1993. Houston Street down to Canal, and Bowery over to Lafayette. On the next block, one block past Bushwick Avenue, was Aberdeen Park. So I think a lot of it had to do with that. We had the apartment on the first floor and even the old guys from the neighborhood would come in and play cards and dominoes. Wed drink Night Train. We all got along. And that would touch it off right away, because theyd start yelling back at us, and before you knew it, wed be running down on the railroad tracks, theyd be running up. Some shotguns, a .30-06, a .30-30. We could see them from the hill. But that didnt last too long once they got used to it. All of a sudden wed start hitting each other. I got convicted for a gang-related manslaughter. They fought on the handball court with no shoes on. Everybody else had to shoot, because we already were. I was 13 or 14 when I started. They had a lotta heart. One of the bullets hit Montuoro, hitting him in the aorta, killing him. There were like 20 of us. By todays standards, there would have been a lot more lawsuits. He used to shake when he walked and shit like that. On that day the Baldies happened to be in Section 11 and when someone asked for help, they proceeded to Section 17 to inform the Red Wings that this was their area. Nobody would fuck with us. There was nothing you could do about it. You have to flip your colors. They started getting nasty. The next time you went to the club, theyd be there and it would be like, Oh, we had a fight with these guys last time. Chemistry Faculty. I personally didnt believe in jumping people. Gang wars were very infrequent and when they did occur hardly ever was there any firearms used. The Fordham Rams are members of NCAA Division I and compete in the Atlantic 10 Conference for most sports. I got in, it was dark, and then when I put on the light all I saw was coffins, so I ran out. The Red Wings were a well-known and powerful Italian gang situated in East Harlem. When I did get arrested, my little brothermay he rest in peacehe was involved. All the gangs were there: The Sportsmen, that was a big black gang, pretty tough guys, and the Dragons, that was the Puerto Rican gang. If you made someone look bad, theyd wanna retaliate. Walk all the way back to where we live, just to get high, then hustle again to get lunch. At our peak, we were only about 100 strong, but the Dirty Ones had chapters in Bay Ridge and the Bronx. But you gotta remember one thing: When we were kids, we didnt have to kill anybody. So a lot of guys ODd. If you dont do it, youre not part of the crew. A lot of guys got hurt, and a couple a guys got hurt really bad. What was so funny was that a lot of the people were intermingled, family-wise. I used to hide sometimes on the corner and wait for him, just hoping to get him. It got to a point where a gang called the Fordham Baldieswho were like the biggest Italian gang in the Bronxheard about us and came down and made us a brother club. They were knife-happy. Sweater by United Bamboo, jeans by Levis. And nobody could fuck with that. I think he got arrested. This was way before anybody was selling drugs. People started making money on their own and they forgot about their buddies. Mary Hamilton (l. 14). It was a mixed group, Italians, Blacks and Irish boys who had grown up together. Farmer was a polio stricken kid who was attacked by a gang called: "The By signing up, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy & to receive electronic communications from Vice Media Group, which may include marketing promotions, advertisements and sponsored content. I'm kind of busy so don't know if I can do much here, but if I come across things that are relevant, I'll add them. It was because of who you were. "Gang Slang" By PHILIP BENJAMIN New York Times (1857-Current file); Oct 20, 1957; pg. In fact, we protected people. Mostly a lot of chains, bats, and knives. 98.224.236.117 (talk) 03:15, 17 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]. This was our life. Dusty Vision TV on Facebook and IG Hit the subscribe and notification (bell) button!BRONX GANGS Of The 1960s - FORDHAM BALDIES Wanderers Ducky Boys Lost Boys of The Bronx James HannonI dont not own the rights to any music in this videoDusty Vision TV Instagram: Dusty Vision TVFacebook: Dusty Vision TVIf you would like to be a guest on my program please email me at dustyangeloddcast@gmail.com or DM me on Instagram \"Dusty Vision TV\"Check out my other youtube channel \"Dusty Vision Radio\"https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQCpoV0wVvjtGQN5ijpjGKACheck out my music. (3) Police busted up a potential rumble and arrested some Gowanus So after a while, he would make an apartment available to us. You wanted to teach him a lesson. It wasnt about, This is where were hanging out, anymore. Some of the cops knew us too. You could find it in the grocery store if you wanted it bad enough. I was too young to know much about them, except that everyone was afraid of them. We went up there and basically we started hanging out and we became the Railroad Boys. Girls drank free. When they got back to East Harlem, they dropped off Hall, Bella and DePetris, but picked up two new Red Wings, Frank Ciappetta and Vincent Gugliemelli. Me and my brother are probably the only ones that dont have a bike. He suffers from asthma. Everybody knew who was who. He died in a tragic fuckin condition. Jun.1, 1954 - Several Members of the Red Wings' gang from East Harlem drove to Fordham Baldies turf in the Bronx and shoot dead Ernest Montuoro after being insulted in a fracas at Orchard Beach. bayonets, brass knuckles, and garrison belts before officers swoop Some Red Wings attended near-by Benjamin Franklin High School. This time we were up on the roofs throwing things down on them: Bricks, bottles, cans you could kill somebody if you hit em with a garbage can of rocks from 50 feet up. Having an Active Minds Chapter in your school can be an important step in changing the conversation about mental health. Or cite a source, of course. I got my head split open with a piano leg one night too. who descended on Micheal Farmer in the city owned: Highbridge swimming pool, whom they perceived That was our block, so we had to protect everybody from other people who would come in and mess up the block. Sometimes wed say, Come on up. This guy Georgie Grout, he had a car antenna and he threw it down and this guy must have been, I dunno, 40 feet away? John Gotti, too. Click here to learn more about Ernests life as well as pictures of Ernie before he was killed. Sometimes. And I think using full years instead of century description is better. I went over to the South 9th Bikers in early 1980, the same year I went to jail. After the Kennedy assassination, somebody opened up the door and let the drugs in. I used to steal a lot from factories. Little by little the white gang broke up. There would be 20 or 25 of them and 20 or 25 of us. We had a clubhouse. But there were some of us who had everything a kid could have. --rocketrye12 talk/contribs 03:21, 29 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], I moved it to Bronx gangs (mid-twentieth century), please mind your capitalization. THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF FORDHAM UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS Main Navigation Menu. Because we were like brothers. It could more than double in size at that point. If they caught you, you were going to get an ass whuppin. We were never really into robbing people. There were opium dens down in Chinatown. Sometimes people got hit by cars. A Mother of one of the Lucky Lords was arrested with a gun. They wear leather jackets with a skull on the back and "FB" (Fordham Baldies) on the arm. Ducking from shootouts and things like that. A car can sit on the street two or three days today. We used to make choppers with four- and six-polesextensions, you know? When I moved to the Bronx, I saw guys with long hair, cut sleeves, kneepads, and motorcycle boots. I think that had a lot to do with the fact that I wasnt a member. THE 5TH (EAST,TREMONT AND MAPES AVE.) area in the 1970's: THE BLACK SPADES, PEACE MAKERS, HARLEM TURKS, 7 IMMORTALS, P.O.W.E.R. This was found to be a nice touch in the Wanderers movie, but in reality, the Fordham Baldies were named for the Bald Eagle and had the Duck's Ass or "D.A." hairstyle later made famous by Fonzie from Happy Days. My kid brother ended up dying. Then you tie the hammer up with rubber bands, pull it back, and let it go. Unlike the idiotic movie the wanderers, however, they didn't have any blacks in the gang, they went around to other neighborhoods to see if they could find some to beat up. The memories are all roughly the same, or close to it. They gave my brother a summons, and I stood in jail for a decade and change. I didnt take no shit from nobody. They heard that the Italian Dukes were brother gangs with the Fordham Baldies, so if you were walking around with an Italian Dukes jacket, they didnt fuck with you. Youd be saying, I dont give a shit who you are, calling the club out. Then wed be getting high all night till the sun came up, going to the beach, listening to music. For each institution, films are listed by release date, starting with the most recent. This was 1960 through 1962. The bullet penetrated his abodmen wall and because of the injury his leg became gangrenous and he had to have his right leg amputated several inches above the knee. The quarterback of the Lynvettes, Thomas "Tommy" Wall, a Woodsider and former Chief QB said about the Chiefs "in the off season we were a gang." It was also common for someone to be walking down the street, and a car would stop, and a bunch of guys would jump out and beat on him. 90K views 13 years ago Gang turf of the Corona Dukes, Arthur Avenue Boys, and the Fordham Baldies. It was 60 years ago today (October 16th, 1960) that Dion announced his split from the Belmonts.Dion, whose last name is DiMucci, had been a member of the Bronx, New York street gang the Fordham Baldies when he joined musical forces with Carlo Mastrangelo, Freddy Milano, and Angelo D'Aleo, who were part of a rival gang, the Imperial Hoods.The resulting group took their name from the Bronx's . When I stepped off the train, I saw all these abandoned buildings, and every night there were the sirens of the fire trucks, and people being displaced, crying, no place to go. My childrens fatherwe had five children togetherhe and I slept in abandoned cars and buildings, what we called clubhouses. Even today, in 2012, the Fordham Baldies still bring memories to many people I have talked to. In the 60s, the Puerto Ricans and blacks were coming in like there was no tomorrow. We had a gang that started in high school. We ran up there, disassembled a few chimneys, and took some bricks and some bottles. If you walked by somebodys block, they would chase you, shoot at you, and beat you down if they caught you. Thats how the whole biker thing came about first. It was a black guy who did it to him, in a fight over a girl. There are 41 of them, and each member is a serious brawler. But the thing is, there never is an invasion. You won. NYC. One time, something had happened so I went looking for this guy to get him. I stayed in there for what seemed like three hours, but it was probably 15 minutes. I was maybe 16. In Williamsburg, where we were, it was the Majestics, the Dukes, the Unknown Bikers, South 9 Bikers, Spanish Kings, Devil Rebels, Dirty Ones, and a bunch more. They didnt have to worry about getting robbed or nothing on the block. Pichon, President of the original Latin Kings of Highbridge Park, '63, currently living in the West Coast. I remember them strutting their stuff on the boardwalk dressed in black bikini bathing suits with red piping. We never really had any problem with the Hasidics. This guys sister might be living with that guys brother, or you might have a kid with that guys sister. I dont want to glorify it, because for todays youth theres nothing to glorify in gangs, but back then it was what we did to survive. Thats where the money was. We came into a lot of weapons at an early time. You know what beer muscles are, right? Italians were Italians in those days. We didnt have rules or initiations. No matter where you went, even the toughest gangsfuckin Puerto Ricans, blacks, whateverthey wouldnt fuck with us. He was from the Marcy Projects and he would always come down with a gun. Somebody else could come and rob your mother and you wouldnt like it. Plus, if you had a leather jacket on and I shot you, chances are the bullet wouldnt even go through the jacket. It happened on a fateful late spring day in 1954. That was a typical night. In 1959, a member of the Dragons was killed in a fight with the Viceroys. After that it was acidPurple Haze. You could see how things escalated. There was a shootout and it so happens that she was working at that time, and she got killed. Belmont Avenue, near East 189th Street. We werent selling, we were just using. One gang, the Fordham Baldies were reputed to shave the heads, and other body parts, of those they caught. Here's the spotify link:https://open.spotify.com/artist/0FJNuMjFZHeQKJXR0DlmzX?si=RjpC0Rx4SpWB7sXFlct-Qg\u0026utm_source=copy-link\u0026dl_branch=1\u0026nd=1 There were some crazy kids, though. This is my hood. After I received this email, I received yet another email, this time from Ernests niece who has some stories to share about Ernest that her father shared with her. The Viceroys were a Puerto Rican gang from 103rd Street, between Park and Madison Avenues. This was from a roof maybe four stories up. From time to time, wed bump into them and theyd make fun of us like, Hey, we got your park. You push a guy up against a wall with a car, just push him till he hits the wall. I lost my virginity at like 14. And to make it more interesting, this gang fight happened far from East Harlem it happened in the Bronx in Baldies turf at 189th Street and Belmont Ave. Eventually, if you hung out in that neighborhood you tried pills or pot, or whatever other crap came into town. From the Jewish girls mostly, not from Catholic girlsnot when I was a kid. Later on we had a clubhouse where wed hang out all the time. So they kept the neighborhood. Rivals: Allerton Avenue gang, Parkside gang, and the Wanderers gang. I lived in abandoned buildings with them. Because of this gang fights between the two groups became the norm. This is how I remember it because I was raised in El Barrio and in Washington Heights from the early 50s and 60s. Then you had all these other little clubs in between. On any given weekend night, as you reached the 'balcony', you started the Ducky 'whistle'. The Ducky was not predominantly irish or anything else, but yes, we were certainly a 'large' group. They had another Italian neighborhood, down on Cherry Street and Madison that was just the same as ours. It was nothing to have like three or four shootouts a day. They had some young girls on like Oprah or something who said that. We went to the roof above this nightclub and when they started coming out, we just rained bottles and bricks down on their heads. Lot of guys went to jail. They were with them most of the day. at a dance between the Lucky Lords and the Counts. Terror, cross-eyed, 150 pounds, six foot four is the war machine of the Fordham Baldies. After 1940, the Jewish population faded and their diaspora paved the way for the hispanics to settle there. Robbing and stealing wasnt a big thing. There was a guy called the Baron and a guy called Bob the Queer, and theyd get us whatever we wanted. I would buy it from Italian guys over on Avenue D, but not guys that we actually knew. Or you find them in a car, dead. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected. The Micheal Farmer killing was an incident that happened during the showing of West Me and a few other guys started making a lot of noise, you know, fighting all these other gangs. We were always there. Stripping you means taking your jacket by force. I am currently researching these two killings one in 1958 and the other in 1959 and hope to write about them in more detail in the future. Now, everybody else has a bike. You have your murderers, your rapists, your thieves. I lived down the block from an armory, and there was a sergeant who would come every morning and buy seven bags of dope. formed. Astoria. They ran books, they stole, they shylocked money They ran the neighborhood, whatever they did. Everything started out with sweaters. Or wed buy a 40-ounce bottle of Budweiser, a quart of Ballantine, sit up on the hill and drink that. The Red Wings with Frank that June 1 were John Hall, Louis DePetris, Philip Bonnano, Jerry Santaniello and a girl only known as Bella. That was the big thing. They knew it was my kid brother, but all the witnesses were saying it was me. That was a typical day. He wanted to hang out so bad that he let us call him Snowball. The resulting group took their name from the Bronx's Belmont Avenue. It was a sanctuary, this rectangle here. I mean, we liked to have a good old-fashioned fight and beat the hell outta each other, but we never had no intentions of, Lets go down there and kill a few of em. We all lived in the same neighborhoodthat was another reason why we werent out to kill each other. Not in my memory! 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