It may be time to change channels. Hep Alien and Yannick like this. He had had encounters with people who did heroin, and he hit a point in his life when he did not know what to do with the pain he was feeling. The Petty Archives is not in any way knowingly affiliated, associated, or endorsed by the Tom Petty estate, any of the Heartbreakers, and/or any of their current or previous management. They got me a Beatles magazine from 1965, the year I was born. I remember when the other guys I was working with would say, "We're only making 300 a week!" Zanes also coaxed Stan Lynch, the ex-drummer of Petty's longtime backing band, The Heartbreakers, to talk unflinchingly about his falling-out with Petty. And on the far end of success: not having that doubt, taking yourself so seriously that you refuse to even believe that there's a chink in your armor and that you're real. Stan said no to the interview . I'm Bihter. Stan said no to the interview between three and four times. I said, Im probably losing it, I dont know. He said, When The Eagles broke up, I was thirty-three. He described us as not his main gig. When Tom Petty was asked to describe original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch in the 2005 book Conversations With Tom Petty, the bandleader responded with, Stan. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. Bio; Contact. Keith Moon, his drums sound like he's pushing washing machines over the hill! To me, it was like, "Who gives a fuck? Ive known him since I was 15. Stan Lynch was the original drummer for The Heartbreakers. Tom Petty was a heroin addict in the 90s. Id rather hear the old songs with the real singer.. Now, if you're trying to tailor your work to the widest possible audience, then I don't know if you can reconcile those two things. Lynch accepted the offer, and the two re-established their musical partnership. By virtue of his band staying together and the quality of the musicians, the Heartbreakers are a singular story in popular music. But if its all of us without Tom, theres this big hole in the room. In a recent interview, Lynch recalled some of his most memorable experiences, including his 2002 . Zanes spoke by telephone about Petty.. But then, I know guys it didn't hurt. But it must be more difficult for the person who's been successful for a long time on their own terms, and then all of a sudden something fails.Yeah, you don't sell records. That is the fuckin' ride. I dont know what it would mean to them since they have a lot more miles than I do, but it would be a joy for me., Campbell says hes not ready for something like that. . Man, we used to have a joke in the first band I was in, which was: lower your goals and succeed! If you still wanna stay in the biz, if you're still feeling useful. You don't need to try so hard - boy, you wasted a lot of energy trying to be loved by everybody, and the bottom line is that wasn't what was important. He could have handled things better, and his mistakes were mainly related to miscommunication and immaturity. I think I have some Tom nuances in my voice. Last week, Stan Lynch was interviewed atthe Matheson Museum in Gainesville, Florida. Occupation. Stan did everything he could to get fired, Petty said. His feel somehow combines the loose gallop of great classic rock'n'roll with the unrelenting tension of barely contained energy. And I also probably would have told myself, don't waste any moments in terms of those six months between tours, where Tom's writing, you should be writing too. 2023 Cond Nast. You just say well, you coulda done, or you shoulda done, or would youand what you're really saying is "Why didn't you do it my way?" If I ran a record label, probably one of the first things I'd do is drop half the roster. I had to forget all that. And then we got together when we were old fucks and we played some clubs. I would have never bet on that.. If you still have to prove something to others other than yourself. When somebody's on a bender you don't yell at 'em. Right now, Campbell and the Dirty Knobs are on a brief break before returning to the road in late May for another long string of shows that includes stints opening for Chris Stapleton and the Who at arenas and even a few stadiums. I didnt need to be that way. It's usually somebody that has the seed of an idea that he's gonna protect. I wouldnt want to cheapen it or do a watered-down version., Theres been talks of a one-off tribute show where the Heartbreakers would play with guest singers, but Campbell says he cant even envision that. We had recorded some of the songs with Stan (Lynch, the Heartbreakers' drummer through the mid-'90s) at Mike (Campbell)'s house. Ive thought about having different singers up there doing the songs, but why? He remembered me from the tours. So it helps you to get your own inspiration back to be able to really learn to listen to somebody else.Yeah, because usually musicians don't listen, they just critique. And he was dissing Stan Lynch for being behind the beat. Zanes, now fifty, was telling the tale the other day, while ducking out of the rain for coffee at Benvenuto Caf, in Tribeca. As Petty embarked on his next solo effort, Wildflowers, he knew that it wouldn't be a good idea to let Lynch play on the record, drafting session musician Steve Ferrone for most of the tracks.Though Petty was content to play most of the record without Lynch, his label insisted on having a greatest-hits record led to the original Heartbreakers reuniting for the song 'Mary Jane's Last . Ive seen enough that I know that I dont need to see much more Bigger isnt better.. The band loudly declared their love for Petty at their shows. [laughter] You know, mining the same belly button lint for the 10,000th time. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakershad been off the road for nearly a year when the 1994 Bridge School Benefit came around. There are things I could have handled better, specifically with Mike. He basically has no connection to that family back in Florida. having this conversation," he said in a 2003 interview with Newsweek. Stan had never heard me sing before, and he was the main harmony singer with Tom. The list goes on, but this'll get you started! I sat down at the drums and I didnt know whether to cry or barf. Well, if your ego gets in the way and that's what's dominating your thinkingThat would be so sad! That's good advice for a lot of people now who have home studios and sit in them by themselves.Yeah, you need a muse. Songwriter, musician. It wouldn't sound the same if it wasn't Keith Moon playing the drums.Oh absolutely, but at the same time, it's Pete Townshend protecting his idea. And with that, there can be the ultimate cost. I figured, "Well I'm off the road, my job's done, whoopeeee!" What do you do when you lose inspiration for a period of time? "Oh! And hes just kind of patting this thing and Im thinking, This could go any one of ten thousand ways. Since leaving the Heartbreakers, Lynch has gone on to become a successful producer and songwriter, performing those duties with Henley, the Mavericks, Ringo Starr, Matraca Berg, Toto and many others. You have left the Del Fuegos. Petty is a rock star who is also a member of a band that has been together since the mid-seventies, and it is difficult to be one without undermining the other. So we're even! It's like a pro sports athlete. What do you do if you've had a long run of success and then your music goes out of style with the public taste, your sales are flagging, and there is a lot of pressure from people to change. Lynch isn't looking for the spotlight anymore, though, according to his interview last week. I sat and talked to him a year ago, and it was like my long lost brother. Lynch reflecting on his time in Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers: There were many things that were not said that should have been said. So, how much is Stan Lynch worth at the age of 67 years old? Combine that with a finely honed sense of dynamics, a big signature tone featuring huge toms and in-your-face snare, and an uncanny attentiveness to every moment of a performance, and you may as well have custom designed the ideal rock drummer. The angst actuallywhat draws most people in drives me away. I know what youre feeling, so get on a plane. So I did. I wouldnt want to let anyone down, says Lynch. It's funny, you know, working in a band is a chop; it's just another chop. There are times I wish that Petty was more of a self-promoter if only so that his songs could travel a little more widely. And if you need me to explain it to you any better than that, I will. He now resides in St. Augustine, Florida, not far from his and his former bandmates' home town of Gainesville. Below Deck Sailing Yachts Daisy Kelliher Is the Best Chief Stew. You keep this band together. I think he was invested in being caught in that cycle in part because there was so much movement in it all that the trouble from his past was kept at bay. It was almost like in Men In Black. Yes. And you just let him go. [laughs], But I'll bet you're glad you stayed that way.I think it's the only wayto thine own self be true [laughs]. And whatever I was playing in didnt even feel like a band. But we dont mind our heroes being human. I was so vibed. And in five minutes or so, Tom Petty comes out. Hes a rock and roller. Moral dilemmas, relationships, parenting and more. Youre a guy who wants to write songs now. So of course he's gonna stick his head up from behind the car with a court jester's hat on and missing teeth. I have regrets. You stumble upon George Harrison, Jeff Lynne, and Petty in Pettys office, jamming. All rights reserved. Joe Jackson, Past, Present, and Fast Forward, A New York Doll Gets the Scorsese Treatment. Years later, Petty, fascinated by the Dusty Springfield book Zanes wrote, invited him to dinner and rekindled their friendship. This is a great joke I heard somebody say to me: it was somebody who's very successful who was producing records for somebody who was lesser knowna record that was probably never gonna sell, but it was a cool record. Id gone from Madison Square Garden to being a bike mechanic. He was working on a bike when he first heard Runnin Down a Dream, from Pettys 1989 album Full Moon Fever. And I thought, There he goes. He was the original drummer for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers for 18 years until his departure in 1994. I don't know, I can only speak from my own experience. He couldnt go from music into politics, and Bruce Springsteen could. Because theyre so good. Lynchs current shows with Campbell will end in June. Rock drummers seem to be almost expected to be troublemakers, and early on you had that reputation. Other guys, it looks like they went to business school to be rock stars. The behind-the-scenes look at my books, from research adventures to promotion gambles. And he died soon after. Stan and I had some personal conflicts with family here and there, he says. Having Stan [Lynch] play on that is very cool. But you know, no matter how much shit I give any of those guys or they can give me, there were some great lessons learned in how to grow up with people. Flash forward to the 1980s. Those that have done their homework and that are honest and humble, you can't stop 'em! Any book about the fifty-two-year-old Lynch would surely be an entertaining, fairly hilarious read. And - no, I shouldn't! In Lynchs mind, it was a Heartbreakers song. by Robyn Flans. . [laughs] Like, to this day, 20-something years later. That was probably cut more around the time of Greatest Hits in 1993, but it fits in. He takes a Sharpie and signs it for me for every Beatle and hands it back to me. Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Just listened to an interview with Jimmy Iovine on the Howard Stern Show last year. Print Profile Email Profile View Stanford-only Profile Tab Menu . That's when it fell apart with Stan." The tensions between Lynch and Petty had been building ever since the late 1980s when Petty recorded with the Traveling Wilburys and followed that up with. Id never learned anyone elses parts., He started going over the material at his home studio, and he turned to longtime drummer buddies Kenny Aronoff and Gregg Bissonette for advice. Don Henley Called Stan Lynch As He Wanted To Record His New Album Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer and famous record producer Stan Lynch has worked with various bands and musicians, such as the Eagles, the Byrds, Bob Dylan, Stevie Nicks, and many more. ', I dont give a shit what were playing, adds Lynch. But this is against everything I stand for, and I can't let you die in front of me.". ', Related His last words to me where, I heard you, man. It there something hypocritical about it? The musician revealed that he wishes he had handled the situation in the band in a more proper way regarding his departure. A lot of the times Id just be focused on what I was doing, but then Id turn around and be like, My God, its Lynch and hes fuckin smoking it! The interview was conducted by Jeff Sims, guitarist of the Dixie Desperados and lifelong friend of Lynch's. Lynch and Sims attended Westwood Middle School in the 1960s and would play music. When we got back together for the Bridge School Benefit it was just misery. Paper, rock, scissors!". LikeEverclear - Art Alexakis is talented! In light of your experience of being in a band for so long, what advice would you give to band leaders to help the chemistry; what do you think is the best possible way to bring out everybody's creativity in a band situation?The truth of the matter is the best bands, including the Beatles and the Stones and the Who, have a core of creative fire to them that needs to be nurtured before the other people need to be nurtured. Copyright 2023 Modern Drummer Publications. Despite those undercurrents or perhaps partly because of them, the partnership often served as a perfect vehicle for Lynch's talents. All I know is that I have very selective memory about the whole experience, very positive. I didnt talk to the Bogdanovich people, Lynch says. I was very grateful. It still blows my mind that that shit that I remember cutting like it was last week is still somehowviewed asREAL! I was playing way too much, trying way too hard. If you're actually really good, and they don't get it, you can actually believe that you're wrong and they're right. Later on, Stan Lynch worked with many other prominent names like the Eagles, Eddie Money, Toto, and Ringo Starr. Earlier this year, Stan Lynch reunited with his former bandmate, Mike Campbell, when Campbell asked him to join him on the road with the Dirty Knobs. The tension that followed played a significant role in his ultimate departure from the band. Otherwise it can becomeit's just fetishism, it's just "This is my personal fantasy"of what everyone will love. And certainly in Pettys life, it was a big deal when he and George Harrison came together. I have regrets. And I'm going [excitedly], "We're making 300 a week!" That's how I see it now. This site is nonprofit, but is not a registered nonprofit organization or entity. Therefore I should do a duet with N'Sync!" Hes just not a self-promoter. Highlights from the week in culture, every Saturday. [1] Early years [ edit] Lynch was born in Cincinnati, [2] Ohio, U.S., and moved to Gainesville, Florida, in the early 1960s. Saying, These are the things that feel incredibly good, that cant be duplicated. You gotta find your crowd and then you gotta give it up to them a little too, you know; you can't force them to love you. The 50 Worst Decisions in Music History All rights reserved; all wrongs avenged! I don't get the angst. At the end of the process, as was their agreement, Zanes sent Petty the book, and then flew out to California to hear his judgment in person. For now, though, this feature on one of rocks most tasteful timekeepersa true player of the songwill do, for theres plenty to discuss with Lynch. It comes up in weird ways. There was a lot of miscommunication and many immature sh*ts going down. So I think making it tougher to have a record deal and not letting everyone in the club, actually helped. . . That time Tom Petty kindly asked Michele Bachmann to stop using his song in her campaign. Many of whom we had strong feelings for. Sojust pick a time. Artists, Interviews And he hasnt ever spoken about this before.The first thing he said to me on the subject is I am very concerned that talking about this is putting a bad example out there for young people. He makes a big noise wherever he goes. When hes telling the story about how his father beat the shit out of him at age five, its hard not to feel something., I cant pretend to know everything that was going through his mind in telling me these things, Zanes added. And that's why I smile, usually, 'cause I realize I was given the.the troll said you can pass! [laughter]. When original Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch was let go from the group in 1995 or "excommunicated," to use his own term he started a new chapter of his life in Florida as. [laughter]. Thats kind of the Heartbreakers code. They were the best and brightest at the game for a minute there, and I was in very rarified air and extremely good company for a moment there. Probably best known for having been the longtime drummer and founding member of Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, Lynch has also toured the world with Bob Dylan, and written and produced songs for Don Henley, the Eagles, the Mavericks and many others. Ad Choices. Yeah, you tank. I have a really good life, he says. The entire band was displeased by those decisions, but Stan was the most vocal. I mean I'd say thatjoy and curiosity have overwhelmed stagnation and bitterness. He soon found himself in the middle of some conversations that the band was having through himconversations they had never had with themselves. Like God, I couldn't believe it, we'd get off a bus and people would be screaming and yelling and I couldn't fucking believe it! Im not really there emotionally, he says. I'm not overly celebrated; I feel like I was given just the right amount of notoriety that I could handle. But for many drummers, his playing defines the late rocker's greatest work. And what it basically translated to was, "Fuckin' have some fun with this, wouldya?". There are things I could have handled better, specifically with Mike. Collaboration is a whole other thing, you have to let the collaboration happen, and that's a wonderful lesson to learn. I thought we were going out there to draw blood! The other obvious question. He had signed with Zildjian by the time of this MD interview, but he used Paiste 2002s on Damn The Torpedoes. And he, being the leader of the band, had to do most of the work around it. But other people will drag things out of you and it's beautiful if you let it happen. As were driving, hes making me haul ass, and he says, Stanley, driving a Ferrari fast, thats what a groove feels like. At the gig, Marley had the place hypnotized. You first encounter Petty as a fan and then, youre in this rock band, the Del Fuegos, and opening up for these guys. Stan: He taught me a lot, sometimes in very abstract ways. Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. Oh, my my, oh, hell yes, did Lynch serve those songs well. And it reverberated for years, some people never got over it. 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