Cru: Theres certainly a perception, which I share, that the liberal left is trying to impose their ideology of inversion, where black equals white, etc; a phenomenon which has infected the West. The real question is, why Teena liked Lotter. r: I need do nothing of the sort thankfully cos I live in a democracy which allows (just!) When taken in this context, Sheriff Lauxs infamous interview of Teena is not as preposterous as it seems, though it does not absolve Laux, since he behave horribly towards Teena and towards her sister after she came in to take Teenas things after she was murdered. Tisdel defended Teena often, at one point lying to authorities and telling them she had seen him naked and saw his penis, in hopes they would leave him alone. They could have taught her to handle domestic violence while she was at the psychiatric hospital, but the professionals were sub standard. 10 years ago, in Ca, it cost c $4.2 m each to exhaust appeals of DP offenders, over an average 20 years as appeals are multi-layered for capital offenders but less so for lifers. What I would object to, per the above observation, is demand/enforcement/coercion of something that I should be free to offer as a kindness because it is, in fact, counter-factual for the reason you state. From many things. Name switch. The sheriffs lines when interviewing Brandon after the rape(s) are appalling. Teena was not taking steroids, as far as I know. Lana M. Tisdel (born May 28, 1975) [2] is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the December 1993 murders of Brandon Teena, Lisa Lambert and Phillip DeVine, at the hands of John Lotter and Tom Nissen, is chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry (which left out DeVine). So I dont get why states allows a inmate to marry. Hilary Swank was cast as Brandon and Chlo Sevigny as Lana, and the final result won over . Intellectual is a bit kind: more probably prisoner/murderer fetishism (hybristophilia a paraphilia (ie, sexual arousal to atypical objects, situations, fantasies, behaviours, or individuals) in which sexual arousal/facilitation/attainment of orgasm are responsive to/contingent upon being with a partner known to have committed an outrage such as rape or murder.) All involved young men and twenty somethings. The latter would land him below Nebraskas cutoff of 70 points for death chamber eligibility. Third case (I am a railfan, partial to freight trains going far, far away). Well, among the Brandon clans tombstones where Teena is buried is the tombstone for that aunt, who died in 2000s. But a court later reduced Richardson Countys liability. Let grown adults be free to do as they see fit within the constrains of mutual consent, but for the love of all that is firm enough to be solid ground dont make an untrue true because someone feels like it; already confused identities wont get any benefit from even more distortion of what actually is, and many trans people are quite happy as just that once its obvious its not a flash in the pan or knee jerk reaction to trauma, and no balanced soul should have to much to do with what is not any their business if no one is unhappy about the arrangement unless someone actually is or has been asked. I certainly agree that theyre appalling. TERRORIZED, Gay cousins had a car, an Oldsmobile. Nor does surgery or chemicals change ones essence. However, i do think its silly that one is on death row and the other has life. He gets visibly upset and his voice goes up a couple of notches, like somebody grabbed him by the balls, when he starts talking about his death sentence. Their motive couldve been for multiple reasons multiple reasons why she angered them. You cant take it away from her. I AM PRESENTLY brandons agab may be female but his gender identity was male. She earned the money being a professional Celebrity. CITIZENS! SURVEILIANCE, WHAT SEEMS TO BE P.S. It is a temper tantrum because he could not find a screen play in Teena Brandons tragedy. The relevant question here is whether justice failed due to Sheriffs incompetence or because Nissen was able to intimidate his victims successfully. Its the person who REALLY matters, not the accidental characteristics that overtake and make abstract the person in the chattering (or twittering) of liberals. Talk soon!|. 7 Unnerving Facts About the Lindberghs and the Kidnapping, The Lindbergh Kidnapping: Forensic Files Lost Episode, Dawn Fehring: A Missionary Dies Too Young, Greg Davis: Darlie Routiers No. Based on conversations Teena had with people after the rape, in the car on the way from the hospital and with her sister, emotionally, Teena Brandon was a girl, as opposed to bring a mature woman. Steve, do you know how many times Nissen and Lotter beat Teena during the Christmas Eve? No, they told him. "United States Public Records, 19702009," database, FamilySearch (May 23, 2014), Lana M Tisdel, Grant, Nebraska, United States; a third party aggregator of publicly available information. That quid pro quo is what is truly missing in every aspect of our lives right now. And as a gay man myself, I can say that weve had enough of having our stories heteronormalized to make people like you feel more comfortable. She was a talented actress, she could make people laugh and had leadership potential. This could have been easily fixed with steroid injections you can get on the street. Teena stands her up, takes Lisas car, picks up Lana, and drives her up to Lincoln to go drinking at bars. Her psychiatrist failed her, which is why there is no clinical literature about her case, her story did not enter clinical annals, the way boy who dreamt of wolves, and other interesting psychiatric patients did. I have seen it occur before. Brandon was saving money for gender reassignment surgery before he was slaughtered, it seems like the least we could do is refer to him as he wanted to be. People do not talk about it, because they have something to hide. LANA by LANA, released 20 March 2020 1. He was dead when the Morning Shift came to the overnight cell to do the roll call. After that murder, American jailers were no longer allowed to lock up under age prisoners with grown ups. Although Brandon was born to a teenaged widowed mother, he grew up in a relatively stable home. In the past, Lana has also been known as Lana M Bachman, Lana Tisdale and Lana M Tisdel. Its shameful, in my view, to spend such a huge amount of money to keep people imprisoned more expensively only for the purpose of killing them, when there are people living in poverty on the streets Even if it only cost twice as much as for lifers, that would be a good reason on the abolishment side. ATTACK DOG PUT UPON ME, Lotter and Nissen, portrayed by actors Peter Sarsgaard and Brendan Sexton III, were already in prison for murder by the time the movies came out. She refused pain killers when getting medical treatment. Lana Tisdel is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the 1993 murder of Brandon Teena was chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry.She was portrayed in the film by Chlo Sevigny, who was nominated for an Academy Award for her performance as Tisdel.. During the night when he was being hazed in, the entire club turned on him, and spent the night drinking, beating on and berating the newcomer. Like I said before, the media vultures created a trans icon where they should have really dug into the events. There was a 1954 article measuring tomboyishness in girls and sissiness in boys growing up, 33% of boys have girlish traits and a whopping 66% of girls have boyish traits. It was a girl, not a boy. She spent two years working at a Mc Donalds restaurant, and they wanted her, a high school drop out to go on the management track. She worked physical labor at a lumber yard. What you tolerate, you had better be prepared to suffer. Unfortunately Teena Brandon was the indigent patient under state care, and all they did, was giver her a handout about trans people. That is because Teena needed a company of wolves to run with. They will spend the rest of their lives being known as heartless, cold blooded sociopaths who committed a TRIPLE HOMICIDE They are unlovable and unwanted as far as Im concerned.. Movie is a stylized and heavily fictionalized account of who Teena Brandons life and death. His descriptions are great. The why matters far less than the that. Whether someones murdered cos theyre trans or the wrong colour the end results exactly the same regardless of the expressed or putative reason for the crime death and suffering. Lotter told Teena that he liked her and hoped to be with her, after she was released from jail and everyone found out that she was female. You shouldnt call him a girl or use she/her. The Hollywood Reporter LOS ANGELES - Lana Tisdel, the former girlfriend of slain teen-ager Teena Brandon, who was portrayed by Oscar-nominated Chloe Sevigny in the critically acclaimed Fox. According to his own admission, Teena helped them to get on their feet financially and economically, when they got to Omaha, where were they, when Teena was desperately calling from Falls City to get out of there? Lana is residing in Kansas with her husband and kids. John Lotter is a very violent criminal. You can try to twist your own transphobic narrative on this subject all you want, but Brandon exemplified in every way the accepted psycbosocial identity of a trans personhe lived and loved as a man at a time when transgender identities were dismissed and vilified as some sort of carnival sideshow or transgressive pervert, and ultimately that is why he was killedby ignorance arguably no different than your own. Finally, one of the last statements that Teena made was there is no Brandon, I am Teena. Based on things she said, Teena reacted emotionally as a female, not a male to the rape and beating. Fourth Case A well to do IT professional who rode Harley on weekends decided to join a biker gang, well, a suburban Harley riders club, no real felons among them. Lotter used to beat up strangers at the convenience store where Lana Tisdel worked, for any perceived slight against her; Lotter took police on a multi state car chase, once went for a police officers gun once and almost got killed. The quasi-medical needle is a dishonest compromise to render death more palatable to the public (and is not necessarily quick and painless the practical justification.) Its incoherent nonsense but its everywhere; and right- (with a small r) thinking people feel too cowed by vicious liberal intolerance to call a spade a spade and say wait a minute arent you getting a bit carried away? They beat up and raped Brandon one night in December 1993. Really, read up on the outlaw biker violence against women and how Nissen beat Teena by kicking and punching her in the belly every time he beat her. DIFFERENT TIMES, & THE ATTACKS KEEP COMMING! To begin with, Teena had a different name for her male self, not the one you see on the internet. And argument from emotion isnt argument, Ill consider myself non-platformed for unacceptable opinion by you. 6 OTHERS, THAT The concept of hate crime makes no sense whatsoever its just crime; and to suggest that some crimes are worse because of the (usually supposed) motive is as unintelligent as it is offensive to those suffering grief in consequence of supposed lesser murders. Finally, there is John Gregory Dunnes The Humboldt Murders. A final thought: Id be interested to know why they saved the baby. She wanted to leave Humboldt since Dec 28 and cops were okay with it. LARGE TRUCK, I know Teena better than you do. Retardedness is not necessarily illness such that the perp could not reasonably discern right from wrong. I am not just saying the way you are saying it, he he trans he. 1 Antagonist. The murderers attempted some precautions. Several things point to this. It is also noteworthy that Teena Brandon came from a FAMILY, meaning from a large extended family with ties that bind. You infer this from the groupies around the likes of Richard Ramirez, whose attractiveness to women persisted after his appalling crimes were known, and quite a few other sickos who attract women post-conviction. Having already asserted by dint of logic that he was male, you effectively contradicted that by adding that he was, in effect, becoming male in due course (therefore not yet). How much bad luck are you going to have until you realize it aint luck at all? Teena was actually staying at Tom Nissens house. Teena and Phil were trapped in Humboldt by poverty and homelessness. It had to have been Lana's mother told them where he was. One correction: Dominick Dunne is Joan Didians brother-in-law, not husband. I dont care if theyve found God or are remorseful. In addition, Teena was mysogynistic in her abhorrence of womanhood. The media, the transsexual people, the director of this hopeless movie in which she was pathetically played Hilary Swank, all twisted everything. Nissen has admitted to pulling the trigger at various points and has changed his story to saying lotter didwhen it has suited him to do soie to get a plea deal and avoid the death penalty. In the fall of 1993, Tisdel, aged 18, met Brandon Teena, 20, through their mutual friends. Four times. John Lotter is an insect, a non-entity, nothing resembling a human being. Initially friendly, Lotter and Nissen soon began to harass Teena and Tisdel and scrutinize their relationship. Be true to your heart and true to the truth, and it will never fail you if you have the courage. The documentary is also mendacious and hopeless. BEING TARGETED,FOR BEING A TRANS MAN! Trending. Distorted synthesizers and drum machines wail away. When Teenas teen-age father was killed in his car accident, his parents took Teenas pregnant mom in. Boys Don't Cry Streaming gratuit complet entier francais. I tried Facebook to look for someone on both sides but they dont want to talk about it anymore! Nissen was not so ignorant. He is not getting away from her! I think both you guys should be sitting on death row myself. I would give identity politics more credence had Teena not been a psychiatric patient with severe symptoms other than gender dysphoria. Thats why hes doing life & not death row. You are correct in that the need for meaningful conversation is now, more than ever, necessary but unable to happen. Quit wasting tax payers money on these disgusting bags of dung. I believe that this is Teenas own research into her Celtic identity. Notice how no account of Teena Brandons life examines Teenas family to any extent. I hate people talking about Teena as Brandon. The director of the film, Kimberly Pierce, worked on the script for many . That these women (usually) would themselves likely be victims of the person if free eludes them. Lana Tisdel is known for The Brandon Teena Story (1998). Apart from the television works, this American has also appeared in movies. Peirce met with Lana Tisdel, the woman Brandon Teena fell for, and eventually secured her life rights. OTHER THAN PRAYER,ARE The bodies were discovered the next day by Lambert's mother, Anna Mae.[4][5]. The form may change; the substance doesnt. That whole town is sick. Had this been in the military, it would have been seen as great military bearing, instead we have a defiant mug shot. It cant logically be both. John Lotter and Tom Nissen are currently in prison, with Nissen serving life imprisonment and Lotter facing execution. Titre original: Boys Don't Cry Popularit: 11.214 Teena suffered from OCD, Alcohol Abuse, an eating disorder. Teena Brandon was a girl, she was not saving money for sex reassignment surgery, she had none. You may say what does this have to do with Brandon Teena, but isnt that name just another reversal of the truth her being born as Tina Brandon and isnt the entire world backwards by design, and by a minute fraction of the population enslaving us all? But the water was frozen, and police found the items the next day. Tisdel died in 2007 at the age of 71. But you then added that Brandon was saving for surgery. Both Teena and her sister were/are running from the stigma of being economically poor, or being a part of the social underclass. Also, the only person who seems to have gotten through to Teena Brandon emotionally was Michelle Lotter, as a stronger gay woman, who had the position in the wolf pack that Teena wished she had. If you really want to honor someone, you should use their correct name. AFFORDABLE, Everyone wanted her to move and she had no place to go, also, for many reasons, she was not the easiest person to get along with. She also failed to show up for the follow up interview, claiming she was scared and that people were watching the Court building looking for her. Lotter has admitted to stabbing Brandon because he thought he wasnt dead (and even if he didnt pull the trigger its not like he helped with the murders because Nissen was forcing him)so this is all moot. There, he befriended ex-convicts John L. Lotter and Marvin Thomas "Tom" Nissen. Teena was running, both literally and figuratively. The time to care for Brandon was while he/she was still breathing, and in this it seems there just wasnt enough healthily adjusted people what ever their sexual proclivities. Lana, who in her youth resembled actress Jodie Foster, still has long beautiful strawberry blond hair. How self-serving and ignorant can you get? Its not clear what type of work she does or whether she and her husband are still together. and socially was worlds apart. In the morning, the newcomer was dead. R: Fourteen states have no minimum age at which children can be prosecuted as adults, according to the Equal Justice Initiative. The killers spared the life of Lamberts baby son, Tanner. Who knows for sure? Decide for yourselves. Lana found out on December 12, when Teena drove her to Lincoln and introduced her to her sister. This kind of reporting is what makes good journalism. Another indicator that Teena needed a company of men is that photo of Teena and Lana doing homework with Nissen sitting on the couch in the background. At traffic stops, he tried to skirt the law by giving the pseudonym Charles Brayman to police. First, A Teen. Although she came off as a protagonist in the 1999 film Boys Dont Cry, Tisdel didnt care much for the Hollywood treatment. Its a specific form of violence used against women. Thats all for this post. Falls City is a small town, and all of these families were well-acquainted; Lana's best friend was Michelle Lotter, John's sister. They knew each other. Listening to that sheriff interview Brandon makes me so angry. He used stolen checks and credit cards to pay for flowers and stuffed animals for the women he dated; he was a romantic. Apparently there is Teenas prison letter to Lana, where Teena is morosely doing time, pacing the cell and doing push ups and chin ups. Each time they did so by punching and kicking her in the belly. FOLLOWED AROUND CONSTANTLY, Lotter is tall, 62, bigger than either Teena or Nissen. I was there. Who knows? What pissed off the Wannabe Hoboes was that this Outsider had a rolled wad of cash, and when everyone was chipping in, he squinted his eyes, flipped past the $20 Dollar Bills and gave them a five and some single dollar bills. Just pointed out that you agree with Lotter and Nissen. In addition, it wasnt sex abuse trauma that aggravated her condition. There are millions of tragic stories of cisgender women who have been victims of violent crimes, and weve offered our full measure of empathy towards them for our entire livesat the exclusion of seeing our own tragic stories offered any reciprocal respect. The Tisdel family did not get along well with Teena's mother, Jo Ann Brandon, and his sister, Tammy, who accused Tisdel of being responsible for the murders. It would be nice if people would voice their opinions, using some facts and logic as to how that opinion was reached, then listen to the opposition and the facts and logic from that side. (She hitched up with a guy from her hometown of Falls City on Dec. 6, 2001, according to Douglas County records.). It may look liberal, but is in fact deeply intolerant of naysayers because its origin is in the Left, which lectures, harries, then bullies us on how and what to think (it has to, as sensible people couldnt agree with its nonsense). 1 Antagonist. During a Christmas Eve party, Lotter and Nissen forced Teena to take off his clothes in order to show everyone, including Lana, his genitals. Crooks are never going to say Yes,We blew them up for the gold reserve in 1 & 2 and did a little dance. Thanks. He was born a girl but cut his hair short and styled himself as a boy. There is a widely reported notion that Teena hated lesbians. One was trying to be happy in his own body and the other two supported him. Honestly thats what I had thought all these years. The baby was around 8 months old, so it couldnt incriminate them. The biggest problem with the PC Brigade appropriating Teena Brandon as a transgender icon is that they overlook the real person who lived and died. Yes, she became an Issue, much as Matthew Shephard did when he was murdered by two scumbags, after which far more silliness issued. Nissen is scared as well, though I am not sure of what. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. THERE IS A CONTRACT OUT ON MY LIFE! But a week after he was arrested on a check-forging. It costs more to house death row inmates, who are held in segregated sections, in individual cells, with guards delivering everything from daily meals to loo paper. Her gay cousins did her no favors. On top of that, there are serious efforts to get John Lotter off the death row, where he belongs. Life without parole is done with, while enabling opportunity to reverse a terrible wrong, regardless of the morality of the death penalty. You point to another problem: the vested interest in poor performance in IQ testing post-conviction. Aston was killed in the crash. Tough love. I think this probably places me somewhat at odds with trans rights but such disagreement makes the world a more interesting and stimulating, if less superficially harmonious, place (though human nature might demand that disagreements in our genes and wed simply find other issues over which to disagree for those that cease to be per consensus) Nor do I think the concept of hate crime is coherent, so that probably places me at some distance from minority rights. Log in or sign up for Facebook to connect with friends, family and people you know. Lanas father, L.L. Being kind isnt PC, its simply decent. Ice going, guys. Both young men had criminal records, and Teena had been staying with Nissen. Great post. Teena was an awesome girl! None, because the multiple surgeries leave the person in no physical condition to run around in the field in combat boots. This is interesting, because she loudly bemoaned lack of facial hair, and her monthly periods. A lot of women join military and jump out of airplanes, and most of them are not LGBTQ. Rest in peace, Brandon, Lisa, and Philip. Real Teena was an awesome individual who was tarred and feathered in the Falls City. Lisa Lambert's name was changed to Candace in the movie. Identity politics or whatever cannot alter scientific fact. Leslie Tisdel was vocal about the film's script changes, and upset that her boyfriend who was murdered, Phillip DeVine, was not included in the film, nor was she, and instead the film focused on Brandon Teena. Lotter is capable of self-pity. Aug. 24, 2000 -- Brandon Teena lived and loved as a man. We all wonder what on earth theyre doing the answer being fetishising the murderous/rapist/criminal object. Lotter, Nissen and Brandon. Gender identity is the gender a person identifies with or feels themselves to be, and is their own or a social construction. This article gets some things wrong, but it is great for background information. A bunch of quarreling friends, a teen-age tragedy of too much booze and a drunken misunderstanding. Teena Brandon dreamed about becoming an Outlaw. His main problem was having a gender identity crisis in an era when people didnt talk about that kind of thing openly. However, if you look on the internet, you will see a photo of Teena Brandon grinning maniacally, one hand holding her crotch, another arm wrapped around none other than Lotter, her hand is tightly grabbing Lotters shirt. No, I post here, because that who Teena was and that is what happened to her. Victims, and there are plenty. Your email address will not be published. L.L. Laux tells her that he knows Nissen, and that if Nissen pulled her pants off, he would have groped her. So whats become of the hardscrabble, karaoke-loving Nebraska girl portrayed by actress Chlo Sevigny on the big screen? Lotter and Nissen then shot Brandon, Lambert, and DeVine dead. In August 2020, Lana suffered a new tragedy when her Ford pickup crossed a center line and fatally injured Chrysler minivan driver Glenn D. Aston in a head-on crash in Fairview, Kansas. Who were they? Very tired of hearing this low IQ score crap!! Poor kid. Dramatic-license violation: She alleged that the movie used her life story without her permission and unfairly depicted her as a habitual drinker and drug user. So, much so, that the critics were accusing Jimenez of Truthism and called to have the author stripped of the award that he received for it. Can I tie her up and keep her in my bedroom (until the Court opens after Christmas holidays, so that she can be surrendered there and bail be revoked)? He asked. Second, read the account of Teena and her gay cousins in the Village Voice article, then see her gay cousins testimony in the Brandon Teena story how Teena would disappear for a couple of hours and come back with food, $200 $300, and it would be his. I know more about Teena Brandon and what happened to her than you. She got a job at a lumber yard loading trucks and developed her physical strength. This was apparently with all of the censorship of social media on only one side of the conversation. After everything she had experienced before her death, she made it clear that her name was Teena. She also got him in trouble with adults and later every reason that they sucked up to her turned out to be a lie. If you are interested in the Matthew Sheppards case there was some interesting controversy surrounding the Steve Jimenez book written about him, The Book Of Matt. Teena blew him off. I dont know the answer because I havent checked articles etc. Brandon died at the hands of two low lifes named John Lotter and Marvin Thomas Nissen just before New Years Day of 1994. Really dug into the events, Brandon, Lambert, and her are. Life & not death row, where he was arrested on a check-forging 24, 2000 -- Brandon Story. 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